Government Oversight and Audit Committee

Agenda

1. Call to Order

   Chair Ackerson called the meeting to order at 5:12 p.m.

2. Roll Call

   Chair Ackerson introduced the committee members and non-committee members present. A quorum was established. Note: All committee members and non-committee members present attended virtually, except for Chair Ackerson, Committee Member Fox, Committee Member Reed, Committee Member Benson, Committee Member Holton Stewart, Council Member Hollander and Council Member George, who attended in Chambers.

3. Special Discussion
4. 1. Relating to the proposed amendments and creation of new sections of Chapter 21 of the Louisville Metro Code of Ordinances relating to the Lobbying of Metro Officers.
   Discussion Item

   All discussion was had under item 13. O-058-22.

5. Pending Legislation
6. 2. APPOINTMENT OF ANDREA LAUAGO TO THE NULU REVIEW OVERLAY DISTRICT COMMITTEE (TERM EXPIRES FEBRUARY 26, 2023)
   Appointment
   Action: recommended for approval Passed

   A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee Member Purvis, that this Appointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office - Andrea Lauago, Appointee The following was discussed: - The appointee will be representing the Planning Commission on this Board - The appointee has been a resident of Louisville/Jefferson County for approximately 43 years - The appointee is a planning supervisor with Louisville Metro Planning and Design Services - The appointee resides in District 20 The motion carried by a voice vote and the Appointment was sent to the Consent Calendar.

7. 3. APPOINTMENT OF LESLEY GRAFF-VINCENT TO THE JEFFERSONTOWN FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT BOARD (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025)
   Appointment
   Action: recommended for approval Passed

   A motion was made by Committee Member Purvis, seconded by Committee Member Fowler, that this Appointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office - Lesley Graff-Vincent, Appointee The following was discussed: - The appointee will be filling the seat of a previous board member that was no longer eligible for re-appointment - The appointee is an associate director privacy official with the Humana Government Business - The appointee currently resides in District 20 - The appointee was born and raised in Louisville, Ky -- the appointee left for a few years and came back approximately 2.5 years ago - The appointee has been the historian for the Jeffersontown Fire Protection District for 1 year The motion carried by a voice vote and the Appointment was sent to the Consent Calendar.

8. 4. APPOINTMENT OF GINA SCHODROWSKI TO THE CEMETERY BOARD (TERM EXPIRES APRIL 13, 2025)
   Appointment
   Action: recommended for approval Passed

   A motion was made by Committee Member Purvis, seconded by Committee Member Winkler, that this Appointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office - Gina Schodrowski, Appointee The following was discussed: - The appointee has lived in Louisville/Jefferson County for approximately 7 years - The appointee currently resides in District 19 - The appointee is interested in serving on this Board because she believes that everyone deserves a proper burial The motion carried by a voice vote and the Appointment was sent to the Consent Calendar.

9. 5. REAPPOINTMENT OF KELLI MORRIS TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025)
   Appointment
   Action: recommended for approval Passed

   A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee Member Purvis, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office - Kelli Morris, Appointee The following was discussed: - The appointee was originally appointed to this Commission in 2020 - The appointee has lived in Louisville/Jefferson County since 2001 - The appointee is the physical security and investigations program manager with McKesson - The appointee currently resides in District 19 - The appointee has an extensive investigative background with both corporate and law enforcement The motion carried by a voice vote and the Reappointment was sent to the Consent Calendar.

10. 6. REAPPOINTMENT OF DELORES PREGLIASCO TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025)
    Appointment
    Action: recommended for approval Passed

    A motion was made by Committee Member Purvis, seconded by Committee Member Fowler, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office - Dee Pregliasco, Appointee The following was discussed: - The appointee was originally appointed to this Commission in 2017 - The appointee has lived in Louisville/Jefferson County since 1974 - The appointee is a self-employed attorney - The appointee currently resides in District 9 - The appointee was on the Executive Ethics Commission under Governor Beshear and wanted to continue that work in the community The motion carried by a voice vote and the Reappointment was sent to the Consent Calendar.

11. 7. REAPPOINTMENT OF ROBERT BOYD TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025)
    Appointment
    Action: recommended for approval Passed

    A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee Member Reed, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office - Robert Boyd, Appointee The following was discussed: - The appointee was originally appointed to this Commission in 2017 - The appointee is a life-long resident of Louisville/Jefferson County for 40 years - The appointee is an attorney with Boyd & Jones Attorneys at Law PLLC - This is the appointee's third term serving on this Commission The motion carried by a voice vote and the Reappointment was sent to the Consent Calendar.

12. 8. REAPPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL OYLER TO ETHICS COMMISSION (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025)
    Appointment
    Action: recommended for approval Passed

    A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee Member Reed, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office - Committee Member Holton Stewart The following was discussed: - The appointee was originally appointed to this Commission in 2017 - The appointee has lived in Louisville/Jefferson County since 1971 - The appointee is an attorney with Furman, Nilsen & Oyler PLLC - The appointee resides in District 25 - Committee Member Holton Stewart asked to abstain The motion carried by the following vote and the Reappointment was sent to Old Business:

13. 9. REAPPOINTMENT OF KIM BLANDING TO THE KENTUCKIANA WORKS - GREATER LOUISVILLE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025)
    Appointment
    Action: recommended for approval Passed

    A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee Member Benson, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office - Committee Member Fox The following was discussed: - The appointee serves as part of the health care group on this Board -- this a prescribed seat on this Board - The appointee is a system director in talent and workforce with Norton's Healthcare - Committee Member Fox asked to abstain due his daughters employment with Norton Healthcare The motion carried by the following vote and the Reappointment was sent to Old Business:

14. 10. REAPPOINTMENT OF STACEY WADE TO THE KENTUCKIANA WORKS - GREATER LOUISVILLE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025)
    Appointment
    Action: recommended for approval Passed

    A motion was made by Committee Member Reed, seconded by Committee Member Winkler, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office The following was discussed: - The appointee was originally appointed to the prescribed seat on this Board in 2021 -- this seat is for a representative of the business community - The appointee owns and operates Nimbus, Inc. -- this is a marketing company - The appointee currently resides in District 4 The motion carried by a voice vote and the Reappointment was sent to the Consent Calendar.

15. 11. REAPPOINTMENT OF CHRIS SCHREMSER TO THE KENTUCKIANA WORKS - GREATER LOUISVILLE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025)
    Appointment
    Action: recommended for approval Passed

    A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee Member Benson, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office The following was discussed: - The appointee was originally appointed to this Board in 2021 -- the seat this appointee hold on this Board is a representative of the business community - The appointee is the chief product and technology officer for Waystar The motion carried by a voice vote and the Reappointment was sent to the Consent Calendar.

16. 12. REAPPOINTMENT OF DR. TY HANDY TO THE KENTUCKIANA WORKS - GREATER LOUISVILLE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD (TERM EXPIRES JULY 28, 2025)
    Appointment
    Action: recommended for approval Passed

    A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee Member Benson, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office The following was discussed: - The appointee was originally appointed to this Board in 2016 -- this seat is for the representative of education - The appointee is the president of Jefferson Community & Technical College (JCTC) The motion carried by a voice vote and the Reappointment was sent to the Consent Calendar.

17. 13. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 21.02, 21.05, 21.06 AND 21.99 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) AND CREATING NEW SECTIONS OF LMCO CHAPTER 21 RELATING TO THE LOBBYING OF METRO OFFICERS. (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION) (AS AMENDED)
    Ordinance

    A motion was made by Committee Member Fox, seconded by Committee Member Reed, that this Ordinance be untabled. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Council Member Hollander - Alice Lyon, Jefferson County Attorney's Office The following was discussed: - Questions were asked regarding whether the proposed Committee amendment by substitution was already e-mailed around -- this was forwarded to the Ethics Commission - The technical amendments made were reviewed -- examples were provided - Page 18, Section F, should be completed stricken -- Clarification was asked regarding whether this was the section that states: "For Metro Officers as defined in LMCO 21.01 (1) through (2)(j) and excluding Metro Officers as defined in LMCO 21.01(2)(k) and (l), an employer shall not engage those current or former Officers as lobbyists until at least two years have elapsed from the date on which that individual vacated his or her office, and those current or former Metro Officers shall not serve as lobbyists during that two-year period."

18. 14. A RESOLUTION AMENDING RULE 6.03 OF THE RULES OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT RELATING TO THE SUBMISSION OF LEGISLATION. (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION)
    Resolution
    Action: recommended for approval Passed

    A motion was made by Committee Member Purvis, seconded by Committee Member Winkler, that this Resolution be untabled. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Hollie Hopkins, Jefferson County Attorney's Office - Committee Member Reed - Kathryn Meador, Jefferson County Attorney's Office - Committee Member Winkler The following was discussed: - A memo that was sent via email to the Committee members was briefly reviewed - There is peer on peer oversight to help determine if the request for outside counsel is necessary - If the appropriation was under the amount of $30,000, appropriate paperwork would need to be completed and signed by the Department's Director of Purchasing -- if the appropriation was over the amount of $30,000, a Non-Competitive Contract Request (NCCR) form would be necessary and would require a Resolution to go before the Labor and Economic Development Committee for approval - Clarification was asked that once the contract passes through the Committee of the Whole by a majority vote, it was asked how would this be paid for -- If the Louisville Metro Council made the request to the Council President's Office and decided to hire outside counsel, once passed at the Committee of the Whole, the money would come out of the general budget to pay for outside counsel The motion carried by a voice vote and the Resolution was sent to the Consent Calendar.

19. Adjournment

    Without objection, Chair Dorsey adjourned the meeting at 6:03 P.M.

20. Note: Items sent to the Consent Calendar or Old Business will be heard before the full Council at the Metro Council meeting on July 28, 2022.
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25. Clerk(s)

    Olivia Bennett, Assistant Clerk Marissa Brown, Assistant Clerk

26. Support Staff

    Hollie Hopkins, Jefferson County Attorney's Office Kathryn Meador, Jefferson County Attorney's Office Alice Lyon, Jefferson County Attorney's Office

27. Non-Committee Member(s)

    Council Member Bill Hollander (D-9) and Council Member Nicole George (D-21)

28. 13. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 21.02, 21.05, 21.06 AND 21.99 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) AND CREATING NEW SECTIONS OF LMCO CHAPTER 21 RELATING TO THE LOBBYING OF METRO OFFICERS. (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION) (AS AMENDED)
    Ordinance
    Action: tabled Passed

    A motion was made Committee Member Reed, seconded by Committee Member Winkler, that this Ordinance be tabled. The motion to table carried by a voice vote.

29. 13. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 21.02, 21.05, 21.06 AND 21.99 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) AND CREATING NEW SECTIONS OF LMCO CHAPTER 21 RELATING TO THE LOBBYING OF METRO OFFICERS. (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION) (AS AMENDED)
    Ordinance
    Action: amended Passed

    A motion was made by Committee Member Reed, seconded by Chair Ackerson, that this Ordinance be amended as shown in the attached document titled: "O-058-22 V.3 CABS 071922 Amend LMCO RE Lobbying of Metro Officers.pdf." The motion to amend carried by a voice vote. The following spoke to this item: - Chair Ackerson - Cecelia Gregory, Metro Human Resources for Ethics Commission - Council Member Hollander - Committee Member Reed - Council Member George - Ernestine Booth Henry, Metro Human Resources - Alice Lyon, Jefferson County Attorney's Office The following was discussed: - Questions were asked regarding whether Cecelia Gregory was the only staff person for Metro Human Resources for Ethics Commission - The only issue was funding for postage for written notices -- the Ethics Commission does not have its own individual budget -- more examples were provided - Questions were asked regarding the amount needed for postage -- it varies per year but the Ethics Commission would need approximately a $1,500 yearly budget - Discussion was had with the Metropolitan Clerk's Office in Nashville, TN and Cincinnati, OH for advise on how those offices handle this -- examples were provided - The way the current Ordinance is written, once passed the registration would not take affect for 180 days -- Louisville Metro Council is trying to ensure that the Ethics Commission has enough time to write the handbook and complete the form, get procedures in place as well as the individuals who identify as lobbyists will have time to understand the legislation, register and file when the form is due -- the prohibitions and other regulations of this Ordinance would take effect immediately - It was asked that someone from Kentucky's Department for Local Government staff come to speak to the committee - Questions were asked regarding the estimated number of entities that might register to become lobbyists -- the Ethics Commission does not have a number at this time - Questions were asked regarding the amount of time will be spent per form -- the man hours spent will vary on a case-by-case basis -- this is specifically regarding the financial disclosure forms - Questions were asked regarding the budget for community education -- this will depend on getting the handbook established -- examples were provided - Questions were asked regarding the number of entities Nashville, TN and Cincinnati, OH had registering per year as well as what meets those cities definition of a lobbyists -- this information could not be provided at this time - Questions were asked regarding prohibitions against lobbying -- examples were provided